RotoWire's Chris Liss and Yahoo Sports' Dalton Del Don handicap Week 5, commiserate about their terrible start, talk NFBC results, Vlad-Senzel bet, Godwin-Thielen bet, Yankees, MLB playoffs, closers, the real problem with over-officiating, Liss' dumb survivor move, their NFFC league, Guess The Lines trolls and Ukraine.