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karma</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[White Pill]]></title><description><![CDATA[The news isn't for you, market manipulation, why we'll never have AGI and that's a good thing.]]></description><link>https://www.chrisliss.com/p/white-pill-e55</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.chrisliss.com/p/white-pill-e55</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Liss]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2026 12:54:48 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/189247136/a84d423ee197683db4c501a81551dfd2.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why We Will Never Have AGI]]></title><description><![CDATA[An Optimistic View Of The Future]]></description><link>https://www.chrisliss.com/p/why-we-will-never-have-agi</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.chrisliss.com/p/why-we-will-never-have-agi</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Liss]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2026 13:51:17 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ca2a5424-a391-41fe-9e64-6bdf4cde1572_4032x3024.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collatz_conjecture">Collatz Conjecture</a>, one of the most famous unsolved problems in mathematics, and naturally I endeavored to solve it. </p><p>The conjecture is simple: Pick any positive integer. If it&#8217;s even, divide by 2, if it&#8217;s odd, multiply by 3 and add 1, repeat. </p><p>Let&#8217;s take 7. </p><p>It&#8217;s odd, so 3 * 7 = 21, + 1 = 22. It&#8217;s even, so cut in half = 11, it&#8217;s odd so multiply by 3x + 1 = 34, even, cut in half, 17, odd, 52, even 26, even 13, odd 40, even 20, even 10, even 5, odd, 16, even 8, even 4, even 2, even 1, odd 4, even 2, even 1, odd 4, etc. </p><p>The conjecture is ALL sequences end in this 4-2-1 loop. Apparently every number up to something massive like 2 ^ 71 (more than 1 with 21 zeroes) has been tried, and all of them terminated in that same loop. But the reason it&#8217;s a &#8220;conjecture&#8221; is it hasn&#8217;t been <em>proven</em> that every number necessarily terminates this way.</p><p>In other words, there might be some large enough number that either diverges to infinity, or more likely loops, e.g, 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000041 might go down to 1000000000000000000000000000000000000023, cycle back up to the first number and just get stuck in a loop, never making it back down to 4, 2 and 1. But we don&#8217;t know for sure because we haven&#8217;t yet tested numbers that big, and even when we do, if they converge on the 4-2-1 loop, there might yet be some even larger number which hits a different loop. What we lack is a proof that this is necessarily the case for ANY number, no matter how large. </p><p>One thing you can see straight off is as soon as the sequence lands on a number that is a power of 2, it&#8217;s going to end in 4, 2, 1. If you take 2 ^7 = 128, for example, you can see it must go to 64 (2 ^ 6), then being even, 32 (2 ^ 5), and then 16, 8, 4, 2, 1. So no matter how big, once it starts bouncing around from the 3x +1 and the x/2, if it hits any of these powers of 2, it&#8217;s goes down the path. </p><p>Now the bigger numbers will bounce around a lot, but further out you go, the sparser the powers of 2 will be. In the first 20 positive integers, we have 2, 4, 8 and 16 (four numbers), but between 500 and 1000, there is only 1 (512). So while the big numbers will bounce around a lot, it&#8217;s possible it could stay in a range that avoids one of these direct powers of two and finds an intermediate loop. No one knows for sure. </p><p>I started prompting Claude to try the same thing with 3x +3 instead of 3x +1, and also 3x+5, 3x +7, 3x+9, all the odd integers. </p><p>Here&#8217;s what it came back with:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_Qh2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F166708ff-f910-4bc2-a1a2-ce00624da984_1786x1572.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_Qh2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F166708ff-f910-4bc2-a1a2-ce00624da984_1786x1572.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_Qh2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F166708ff-f910-4bc2-a1a2-ce00624da984_1786x1572.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_Qh2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F166708ff-f910-4bc2-a1a2-ce00624da984_1786x1572.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_Qh2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F166708ff-f910-4bc2-a1a2-ce00624da984_1786x1572.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_Qh2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F166708ff-f910-4bc2-a1a2-ce00624da984_1786x1572.png" width="1456" height="1282" 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But it&#8217;s unclear whether it&#8217;s a result that will have only one halving (you halve all the evens), or more than one. So in our example using seven, the first 3x + 1 landed us on 22, which halved to 11 which was odd, i.e., only one halving. And the second landed us on 34 which halved to 17, again only one halving. But the third landed us on 52 which had two halvings (26, 13). So while 3x + 1 is a bigger upward push than dividing by two is a downward one, you divide by two more often than you multiply by three and add one. </p><p>When you get AI to do the math, it turns out you need to average 1.585 halvings per 3x+1 to trend downward, and it also turns out the average number of consecutive halvings for the Collatz Conjecture is two. 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Then I asked it to try odd numbers as the multiplier like 5x +1, 7x +1, 9x + 1, etc. And it quickly showed why those would diverge to infinity. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v6cZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe6a19ffa-a110-47a1-a0a5-94a584851a76_1658x1722.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(I also asked it to try fractions like 2.5 and rounding to the nearest integer, but that didn&#8217;t work because the rounding wasn&#8217;t uniform. It wasn&#8217;t going to shed any light about what&#8217;s going on with 3x +1.)</p><p>So I gave up and accepted my failure to prove the Collatz Conjecture directly. For whatever reason, 3x +1  for odds and x/2 for evens sits in a unique sweet spot that seems always to converge to the 4-2-1 loop but doesn&#8217;t admit to any general rule such that it can be proven to do so for any positive integer. </p><p>I then likened it to the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set">Mandelbrot Set</a> which is its own deep rabbit hole with <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlD2rcm971U">astounding implications</a> which also sits in a sweet spot of sorts. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mOeP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F483ff082-8e2d-46d2-a98d-e6e601e765e1_1642x1006.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mOeP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F483ff082-8e2d-46d2-a98d-e6e601e765e1_1642x1006.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mOeP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F483ff082-8e2d-46d2-a98d-e6e601e765e1_1642x1006.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mOeP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F483ff082-8e2d-46d2-a98d-e6e601e765e1_1642x1006.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mOeP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F483ff082-8e2d-46d2-a98d-e6e601e765e1_1642x1006.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>And also the <a href="https://www.numberphile.com/videos/the-goodstein-sequence">Goodstein Sequence</a> which is similar to the Collatz Conjecture in that it always terminates at the same spot (zero), but produces unfathomably large numbers of steps to get there. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AftS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabb56723-0f92-4b9f-a6d2-bbe3c23b1af9_1484x2306.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AftS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabb56723-0f92-4b9f-a6d2-bbe3c23b1af9_1484x2306.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AftS!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabb56723-0f92-4b9f-a6d2-bbe3c23b1af9_1484x2306.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AftS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabb56723-0f92-4b9f-a6d2-bbe3c23b1af9_1484x2306.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AftS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabb56723-0f92-4b9f-a6d2-bbe3c23b1af9_1484x2306.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>After Goodstein&#8217;s Sequence, I started asking it about very large numbers (one of my favorite subjects), and naturally <a href="https://www.chrisliss.com/p/tree3">we got onto TREE(3)</a> a number that&#8217;s beyond astronomical that emerges in graph theory. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xgqt!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ae5db4e-0c62-478b-8c2c-fc3b85244bb9_1624x1472.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xgqt!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ae5db4e-0c62-478b-8c2c-fc3b85244bb9_1624x1472.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xgqt!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ae5db4e-0c62-478b-8c2c-fc3b85244bb9_1624x1472.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xgqt!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ae5db4e-0c62-478b-8c2c-fc3b85244bb9_1624x1472.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xgqt!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ae5db4e-0c62-478b-8c2c-fc3b85244bb9_1624x1472.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>But this explanation wasn&#8217;t quite right. Combinatorics are solved by the factorial operation (!), e.g., 5! = 5 x 4 x 3 x 2.<em> </em>In other words, if you want to know <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSclqnnC2s">how many ways a deck of cards can be shuffled</a>, you&#8217;d just do 52 (number of cards in a deck) factorial which is a huge number, but tiny compared to Graham&#8217;s Number, let alone TREE(3). </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bJw7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8157bb19-d570-4c58-8eaf-4b5e6c2ba775_1622x1350.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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What does it mean by &#8220;logical depth&#8221; of the unavoidability proof? But it touches on the vastness of TREE(3) by identifying something different about it. It&#8217;s saying TREE(3) is the number of possible trees you could have given the initial parameters, before you run out of unique ones. And because some of those trees are very small and some very large, it&#8217;s not like a fixed 52-card deck with must be ordered in one of 52! ways. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WmSl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef8be24c-48ee-4372-820b-dc9185a00ac8_1844x1524.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WmSl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef8be24c-48ee-4372-820b-dc9185a00ac8_1844x1524.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WmSl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef8be24c-48ee-4372-820b-dc9185a00ac8_1844x1524.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WmSl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef8be24c-48ee-4372-820b-dc9185a00ac8_1844x1524.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WmSl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef8be24c-48ee-4372-820b-dc9185a00ac8_1844x1524.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WmSl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef8be24c-48ee-4372-820b-dc9185a00ac8_1844x1524.png" width="1456" height="1203" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ef8be24c-48ee-4372-820b-dc9185a00ac8_1844x1524.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1203,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:534435,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.chrisliss.com/i/189129044?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef8be24c-48ee-4372-820b-dc9185a00ac8_1844x1524.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WmSl!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef8be24c-48ee-4372-820b-dc9185a00ac8_1844x1524.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WmSl!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef8be24c-48ee-4372-820b-dc9185a00ac8_1844x1524.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WmSl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef8be24c-48ee-4372-820b-dc9185a00ac8_1844x1524.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WmSl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef8be24c-48ee-4372-820b-dc9185a00ac8_1844x1524.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Busy Beaver is the fastest growing function because it&#8217;s a cheat. It says a computer could map any function including TREE(3), so whatever the largest mappable function before it repeats (halts in BB lingo) is going to be bigger than TREE(n) or SGC(n), insane graph theory functions, because it includes all possible ones. It&#8217;s therefore uncomputable because we don&#8217;t even know what all the possibilities for functions are. It&#8217;s like saying, whatever is fastest, that&#8217;s it. I wanted to isolate the mechanism of growth for a particular function, say TREE(3) and identify it. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lVRo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa19df0f2-0f6f-4f07-8ab2-7d985702264d_1570x1660.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lVRo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa19df0f2-0f6f-4f07-8ab2-7d985702264d_1570x1660.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lVRo!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa19df0f2-0f6f-4f07-8ab2-7d985702264d_1570x1660.png 848w, 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It&#8217;s looking at the background, not the foreground, so to speak. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nDu7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0732f317-64bd-4b7c-8c10-c76cb31a6900_1614x1430.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nDu7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0732f317-64bd-4b7c-8c10-c76cb31a6900_1614x1430.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nDu7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0732f317-64bd-4b7c-8c10-c76cb31a6900_1614x1430.png 848w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>And this got us to the limitations of AI which is built like <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTeJ64KD5cg">Graham&#8217;s Number</a>, ever increasing iterations, ever-increasing amounts of energy consumption and compute. It is not built like biological evolution which explores all kinds of possible species which go extinct before settling on the survivors. <a href="https://www.chrisliss.com/p/tree3">Evolution is more like TREE(3) which dwarfs Graham&#8217;s Number</a>. Evolution is what produced humans who have general intelligence (and even animals do too with respect to their environments), not merely narrow problem-solving capabilities. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ofdt!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9f13a62f-76fd-4e18-8345-89ae75922bfc_1760x1448.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ofdt!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9f13a62f-76fd-4e18-8345-89ae75922bfc_1760x1448.png 424w, 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But it&#8217;s short-sighted in doing so as the TREE(3) analogy shows. You can&#8217;t build the biggest number or the fastest growing function without exploring the entirety of the possibility space. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6CjR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe48f322b-3a7c-49bc-b799-a5806db57eed_1712x1338.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6CjR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe48f322b-3a7c-49bc-b799-a5806db57eed_1712x1338.png 424w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>When you look at functions it&#8217;s not always obvious initially which one grows faster. If you take 2x vs x ^ 2, when x = 1, 2x seems more powerful. But when x = 50, you can see x ^ 2 is faster. It might be the same with AI and humans. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7vaA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55dff7ea-4ed8-4b4f-86f1-d4bc755e731e_1594x1424.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7vaA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55dff7ea-4ed8-4b4f-86f1-d4bc755e731e_1594x1424.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7vaA!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55dff7ea-4ed8-4b4f-86f1-d4bc755e731e_1594x1424.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7vaA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55dff7ea-4ed8-4b4f-86f1-d4bc755e731e_1594x1424.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7vaA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55dff7ea-4ed8-4b4f-86f1-d4bc755e731e_1594x1424.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7vaA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55dff7ea-4ed8-4b4f-86f1-d4bc755e731e_1594x1424.png" width="1456" height="1301" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/55dff7ea-4ed8-4b4f-86f1-d4bc755e731e_1594x1424.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1301,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:486385,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.chrisliss.com/i/189129044?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55dff7ea-4ed8-4b4f-86f1-d4bc755e731e_1594x1424.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7vaA!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55dff7ea-4ed8-4b4f-86f1-d4bc755e731e_1594x1424.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7vaA!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55dff7ea-4ed8-4b4f-86f1-d4bc755e731e_1594x1424.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7vaA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55dff7ea-4ed8-4b4f-86f1-d4bc755e731e_1594x1424.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7vaA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55dff7ea-4ed8-4b4f-86f1-d4bc755e731e_1594x1424.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>What is x = 3 intelligence? That&#8217;s the question that confronts us as AI becomes more capable at the x = 2 level. In other words, AI is better at many things at the mental-mechanical level the same way a horse is better at transporting 200 pounds of goods across land at the physical level. Call physical labor x = 1, and humans are outclassed even by the horse, let alone a truck or a ship. At x = 2, humans are better than horses and even non-AI machines, but AI is more powerful for mechanistic calculations like computation, sorting data into spreadsheets, etc. But when we hit x = 3, TREE(3) dwarfs Graham&#8217;s Number (3). (Graham&#8217;s number is actually G(64), but G(2) is unfathomably vast and so much bigger than TREE(2) which is only 3.)</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t13d!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb903ba4-57ce-419f-b970-c09e93dbf86a_1618x1436.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t13d!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb903ba4-57ce-419f-b970-c09e93dbf86a_1618x1436.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t13d!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb903ba4-57ce-419f-b970-c09e93dbf86a_1618x1436.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t13d!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb903ba4-57ce-419f-b970-c09e93dbf86a_1618x1436.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t13d!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb903ba4-57ce-419f-b970-c09e93dbf86a_1618x1436.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t13d!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb903ba4-57ce-419f-b970-c09e93dbf86a_1618x1436.png" width="1456" height="1292" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bb903ba4-57ce-419f-b970-c09e93dbf86a_1618x1436.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1292,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:506503,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.chrisliss.com/i/189129044?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb903ba4-57ce-419f-b970-c09e93dbf86a_1618x1436.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t13d!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb903ba4-57ce-419f-b970-c09e93dbf86a_1618x1436.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t13d!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb903ba4-57ce-419f-b970-c09e93dbf86a_1618x1436.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t13d!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb903ba4-57ce-419f-b970-c09e93dbf86a_1618x1436.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t13d!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb903ba4-57ce-419f-b970-c09e93dbf86a_1618x1436.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>We are at the cusp of a seismic shift. Just as machines replaced so much of human physical labor, AI is going to replace so much of human calculation. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_iKi!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F316fa492-58ec-4024-9b44-e8b7e943c89c_1590x1362.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_iKi!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F316fa492-58ec-4024-9b44-e8b7e943c89c_1590x1362.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_iKi!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F316fa492-58ec-4024-9b44-e8b7e943c89c_1590x1362.png 848w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I realized after writing this (and how long it got) that I could probably just skip the whole intro part of how I get there via the Collatz Conjecture, but I love that stuff, and it&#8217;s how the conversation evolved, so I&#8217;m leaving it in. </p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[How To Pay]]></title><description><![CDATA[Easier Than You Think]]></description><link>https://www.chrisliss.com/p/how-to-pay</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.chrisliss.com/p/how-to-pay</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Liss]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 22:30:06 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f3b6c65f-f85d-4c3c-a96e-09f788319d89_3402x1294.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This substack has never been behind a paywall. Some of you do generously subscribe to it which I appreciate, but the vast majority read and listen to the podcast for free. This is not because people are stingy or unappreciative of the work, but that the subscription model offered by Substack is highly flawed. </p><p>Many of you probably pay monthly for Spotify (virtually all of the recorded music in human history), Netflix (mostly slop, but billions of dollars worth of movie and TV show production), AI (a language calculator for all the information accessible via the internet) among other things. Accordingly, it&#8217;s a laughably poor value to cough up roughly the same for one person&#8217;s &#8220;thoughts and observations.&#8221; </p><p>For those of you who frequently read, listen and find value in this work, but don&#8217;t subscribe, there is a better alternative that neither commits you to an ongoing subscription nor commits me to generating &#8220;thoughts and observations&#8221; beyond those that are naturally occurring and suitable for publication. That model is <a href="http://ttps://www.chrisliss.com/p/nostr">nostr</a>, and it works in the following way: You read or listen to something you find useful, interesting or entertaining, and you tip whatever amount you decide in proportion to the value you received. This is not a recurring tip, it&#8217;s a one-time payment of 50 cents or whatever amount you decide it merits. This is good for me (I get paid) and good for you (you are able to pay if you feel like it without signing up for something expensive and of which you&#8217;ll now need to keep track in case you stop using it or simply want to cut back on expenses.)</p><p>The only drawback to <a href="http://ttps://www.chrisliss.com/p/nostr">nostr</a> is getting started which is a level of difficulty on par with setting up your first email client in 1997. If you&#8217;re roughly my age, you had no idea what you were doing, had to fill out the send and receive fields with designations like SMTP and test it out until it finally worked. It&#8217;s similar with nostr which entails you go to a client (Primal.net is probably the easiest, and once you get comfortable you can experiment with other ones) and then fund it via CashApp (among other providers.) This is good for me (I get paid) and good for you (you learned the nostr ecosystem which is the future, just like email was in 1997, and you are able but not required to pay for work you&#8217;d like to support.) </p><p>I&#8217;d like to stress this final point. It is absurd that you have to subscribe to someone&#8217;s content when you&#8217;re only interested in an occasional article, or subscribe to Netflix when you&#8217;re only interested in one show. Why do you need separate accounts for AppleTV, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, etc.? It would be much more convenient to pick the shows you want, pay for them and let whoever funded/produced them sort out the distribution of your payment on the back end. There would still be a need for curation, which could easily be done via social media just as it is now, but subscriptions and the concomitant fees are rent-seeking relics that generate a substantial share of their profits from people forgetting and neglecting to cancel. </p><p>Moreover, if you want to read an article in the NYTimes or Wall Street Journal (why one would these days, God knows), it&#8217;s a huge ask to pony up your credit card for a subscription. But if you had $100 in your browser already, spending 50 cents on a particular piece would be an easy decision. Even better if you could read it first and decide afterwards whether it merited your support. I don&#8217;t know when it will happen &#8212; rent-seekers will do whatever they can to keep the current subscription model in place for as long as they can &#8212; but I am certain this is the future. You&#8217;ll load $100 or whatever into your browser every six months or so and pay as you see fit for the things from which you derive value.</p><p>There is value to being early to the nostr ecosystem just as there was value in being early to email and the internet. You&#8217;ll be fluent in something before it catches on, able to send funds peer to peer immediately without credit cards and third-party-permissioned bureaucracy. And you&#8217;ll be able to support what you want when you want for as much as you want without committing yourself to something expensive you probably don&#8217;t want. I encourage you to experiment with it. Worst case, you learn something new. </p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[What Could It Possibly Be?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Status rug pull, fake ethics, trip from hell]]></description><link>https://www.chrisliss.com/p/what-could-it-possibly-be</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.chrisliss.com/p/what-could-it-possibly-be</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Liss]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:43:01 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/188496960/393a89909a6c276dd6eef3c8fa77c9ca.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Future Is Unevenly Distributed]]></title><description><![CDATA[Protocols vs platforms, Bondi's farcical testimony, obsolescence of jobs]]></description><link>https://www.chrisliss.com/p/the-future-is-unevenly-distributed</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.chrisliss.com/p/the-future-is-unevenly-distributed</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Liss]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2026 14:46:58 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/187742969/15587022d79ce83b13737af41f988407.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[There Will Be Blood ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Oscar gets his ass kicked, fixing the fridge, action instead of anxiety]]></description><link>https://www.chrisliss.com/p/there-will-be-blood</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.chrisliss.com/p/there-will-be-blood</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Liss]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2026 19:27:34 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/187012486/23f430dbbb468a6dbcccc3e3a764fc80.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Lessons In Parenting]]></title><description><![CDATA[The future of content, AI FOMO, why libertarianism fails]]></description><link>https://www.chrisliss.com/p/lessons-in-parenting</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.chrisliss.com/p/lessons-in-parenting</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Liss]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2026 17:20:52 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/186214020/1799234c994a02aa83918944c07b1601.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Report Yourself To The Authorities]]></title><description><![CDATA[Custodying anti-matter, temporary enlightenment, real meaning of multi-polar world, AWFULs vs AWFUCKs]]></description><link>https://www.chrisliss.com/p/report-yourself-to-the-authorities</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.chrisliss.com/p/report-yourself-to-the-authorities</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Liss]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2026 13:24:15 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/185411256/58ce3b8fb1831ba28ccadae35bacd205.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Autopoiesis]]></title><description><![CDATA[Shedding dead weight, when the law fails, broken feedback loops]]></description><link>https://www.chrisliss.com/p/autopoiesis</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.chrisliss.com/p/autopoiesis</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Liss]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2026 15:19:12 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/184665278/a35324464ead6d9fbfeb576c480b970c.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Zeno's Paradox]]></title><description><![CDATA[Watch now | Getting paid, Joffrey Baratheon gets the job, Paradox of Intolerance, stale geopolitical analysis]]></description><link>https://www.chrisliss.com/p/zenos-paradox</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.chrisliss.com/p/zenos-paradox</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Liss]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2026 19:26:23 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/183945014/03f54d251c98f677b763102a8fa7da0e.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Paradox of Tolerance -- Part 2]]></title><description><![CDATA[Kidnapping Foreign Leaders Edition]]></description><link>https://www.chrisliss.com/p/paradox-of-tolerance-part-2</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.chrisliss.com/p/paradox-of-tolerance-part-2</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Liss]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2026 20:02:10 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4839deaa-1a19-464a-8470-b1bf3328e30f_3180x1690.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <a href="https://www.chrisliss.com/p/paradox-of-tolerance">wrote about</a> Karl Popper&#8217;s Paradox of Tolerance, and it seems more relevant than ever now in light of current events. </p><p>The idea is you can be tolerant, but if you tolerate intolerance, tolerance is gone. So you must not tolerate intolerance, assuming your goal is a tolerant society. </p><p>When people complain (as I have in the past) about Nayib Bukele in El Salvador almost certainly violating rights (even alleged gang members are innocent until proven guilty), you get to a contradiction: if the tolerant system wherein everyone gets full due process under the law has been destroyed and abused beyond recognition, then you might have to use supra-constitutional force to secure the rights and freedoms of your law abiding citizens, i.e, to re-create conditions for a tolerant society. Or, as applied to foreign policy, if a neighboring country is actively harming and undermining your own, you might have to use force that violates its sovereignty. </p><p>Whether El Salvador (I&#8217;ve never been there) was really in such a situation that justified the widespread incarceration of its gang members, I don&#8217;t know for sure. And whether Nicholas Maduro was really doing everything he&#8217;s alleged to have done and in so doing had a material impact on the security of our votes or the health of our citizens, I also don&#8217;t know. Governments that use extra-legal powers to achieve desired ends are notoriously deceitful and self-serving in justifying their actions. Any policy, no matter how unethical or authoritarian, will be defended as involving &#8220;<a href="https://www.chrisliss.com/p/national-security-and-public-health">national security</a>&#8221; or even &#8220;<a href="https://www.chrisliss.com/p/national-security-and-public-health">public health</a>.&#8221;</p><p>But it&#8217;s also naive and misguided not to acknowledge the principle in itself: namely, that if circumstances are such that the institutions themselves are no longer capable of delivering justice and/or protecting the liberty of the people, then you cannot restrict your actions to what&#8217;s legal within their own rules. You must make an exception and be intolerant to this intolerance, so to speak, to break the rules in order to restore their functionality and original purpose. </p><p>It cannot be correct, for example, that one should rely on captured courts to ensure due process or comply with international law if those institutions are coopted, broken and ineffective. In El Salvador, <a href="https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/2007733404981498027?s=20">it has been reported</a>, the murder rate was the highest in the world, and regular people were terrified to go about their daily lives. In such a failed system, invoking due process and human rights toward gang members would be to perpetuate the virtual imprisonment of the ordinary citizen, even if (as I have little doubt) at least *some* of the alleged gang members were incarcerated unjustly and even many who were actually vicious and dangerous criminals were likely imprisoned without sufficient due process.  </p><p>The question as to whether Bukele in El Salvador over the last few years, or Trump in seizing Maduro this week, were justified in doing what they did can and should be argued. That Trump and his appointed officials say the mission was necessary is obviously not good enough. </p><p>But what I&#8217;m seeing now is people who seem to believe that even if Venezuela were deliberately and materially harming the US that Trump needed to play within the rules, even if those harms were set up in such a way as to circumvent them, i.e., via a base of hostile operations off US shores, but within reach of them due to the cooperation of US immigration authorities from the prior administration, whether or not such cooperation was in some cases well-meaning. </p><p>It&#8217;s trivial to lead a functional country with strong institutions where the rule of law is sufficient to its task. Where great leaders emerge is when the country is dysfunctional, and the institutions are broken. </p><p>Whether that&#8217;s what Trump (or Bukele) is doing/has done remains to be seen. As I said, every government that breaks the rules is self-serving and deceitful in its justifications for doing so. But it is also plainly not the case that one should never break the rules when those rules have been subverted beyond the point where they no longer function to serve the people. </p><p>There can be no law to guide us when the law itself has been subverted against its original purpose. Perhaps the best guidepost one has in these cases is the manner in which the law has been broken &#8212; was it done judiciously, humanely and proportionally? Was it the minimum extent to which it could be broken, like a surgeon removing a tumor, rather than a butcher hacking at an animal carcass? Or like removing Maduro only, leaving the rest of Venezuela and its people <em>so far</em> untouched rather than destroying all of Iraq, half a world away, for fear of a phantom threat?                                                                                                                                                                                </p>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>